Confusion on XE-1 and getting to max sync of 180 in Manual Mode

Discussion in 'Fuji X-Mount Cameras' started by ej_d, May 30, 2013.

  1. ej_d

    ej_d New to FujiXspot

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    May 30, 2013
    Hi All,

    I have been lurking in this forum while researching my foray into Fuji cameras. I recently picked up a Fuji XE-1 I do a lot of off camera strobe photography so I threw my Phottix Stratos II trigger on it and started messing around last night. Here is my confusion.

    -I set the camera to manual
    -I set the flash to rear curtain sync
    -Lets say I start by setting a desired exposure for ambient that gives me f2.8 and 1/125th of a second. So far so good.
    -I set my flash on the proper power to expose my subject the way i want.

    Here is where my question comes in. If i want to darken the ambient my next shutter speed option is a full stop at 1/250th on the shutter speed dial. Thats faster then sync speed (180th). So i can use the selector buttons (God only knows why this is different then on the X100S which uses the command dial but thats a different rant) to select the shutter speed in 1/3 stops. That gives me the option of 1/160th or 1/200th. With the max sync speed of 1/180th it does not appear that there is any way to specifically get right to sync speed. It will be either under or over. At 1/200th i have not really seen banding but I am just curious if there is a way to get to the specific sync speed or you just have to work with 1/160th or 1/200th. I did not see any option in the menu that would let me select smaller shutter speed increment adjustments then 1/3 of a stop with the selector buttons. Thanks in advance for the help. I searched the forum but have not seen this question posed before.

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  2. AlbertInFrance

    AlbertInFrance FujiXspot Regular

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    Most people find that the X-E1's built in flash syncs quite happily at 1/250th.

    I thought I'd answered this question before...
     
  3. ej_d

    ej_d New to FujiXspot

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    May 30, 2013
    Thanks Albert,

    I looked through the forum but did not see anything related to this. I did do some testing with my olympus FL50R and Phottix Stratos II Trigger and find that 250th was no problem. I think more than anything I found it odd to have a max sync speed with no real way to get to the exact speed in manual mode.

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  4. Accidentalobservist

    Accidentalobservist New to FujiXspot

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    Someone said they were able to get 180th? How?
     
  5. migs

    migs FujiXspot Regular

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  6. jloden

    jloden FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Jay
    I'm not following how that answers the original question of how to get a shutter speed of 1/180 on the X-E1, since it's literally not not a selectable shutter speed. The question isn't where is 1/180, it's how to set it on the X-E1 specifically :confused:
     
  7. jloden

    jloden FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Jay
    For the OP - there's only one way I know of to get to 1/180 and that's automatically. If you use the built-in flash in an auto mode, it automatically limits the shutter speed to 1/180 (annoyingly, I've found it doesn't exhibit that behavior that when using a TTL cable on the hot-shoe so I can't rely on it to limit itself to the max sync speed if I'm shooting auto).

    I didn't double check to confirm, but I bet the 1/180 maximum X-sync speed specification is really geared for the built-in flash. If you're using a more powerful flash unit I would bet 1/200 is safe, and maybe even as high as 1/250 though obviously you'd have to test with whatever flash setup you're actually using.
     
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  8. migs

    migs FujiXspot Regular

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    forgive my ignorance. i take it for granted that i can change exposure in third and half stops in my nikon and oly. given i have no hands on experience with the xe1 (which is why i'm here trying to learn as much as i can before i jump in the fuji pool), i take it that cannot be changed.
     
  9. jloden

    jloden FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Jay
    Ahhh ok that explains why you were confused then, I thought I was missing something :)

    The X-E1 has a mechanical style shutter wheel rather than an electronic wheel. It's fixed in 1 stop increments (1/60, 1/125, 1/250, etc.). Then you can use the back control pad left or right to adjust from there, but in 1/3 stop increments.

    So the dial gets you to 1/125, and the closest you can get is 1/200 or 1/160 by adjusting from there. 1/180 isn't selectable as it's in between the available settings. Granted, 1/160 or 1/200 is close enough for most purposes but when you're talking flash x-sync speed most people are looking to squeak out every last bit they can!
     
  10. migs

    migs FujiXspot Regular

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    Silly that it's not an option. Even more silly that the manual states it and that it's not possible unless in P or A. I always push the flash sync speed anyway until I start seeing black bars.