Featured My thoughts switching from primes to the 16-55 2.8

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by BobbyT, Jan 10, 2016.

  1. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    These are my initial thoughts on the 16-55 2.8. I've been mainly a prime shooter throughout my time as a photographer. I have to say, there are no bad Fuji lenses. Just great lenses and better lenses.

    The 16-55 is big for a mirrorless lens. Very solid, well built. But the 16-55 handles well on the X-T1, and I would assume the X-E2. On the X-T10 the 16-55 gets awkward to hold, being extremely front heavy. A lensmate thumb grip may help with the grip on the X-T10. I would recommend staying with one of the larger Fuji bodies for this lens.
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    for a contrast, the X-T10 with 35mm f2
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    18-135 16-55 55-200
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    Image quality wise, it is everything you would expect from a high end lens. The 16-55 renders and has separation more akin to the Fuji primes. It is super sharp. The auto focus is lightening quick, falling in the range of the 90mm prime. Overall the experience using the 16-55 combined with the image quality leave me with no regrets replacing my primes with it. Shooting the types of conventions I am covering now have shown the need for versatility. Things are not as formulaic and predictable like they are at a wedding. The light is enough that I don't need the larger apertures of the prime lenses. So the 16-55 is going to be a great fit. Oddly, the size of the X-T1/16-55 feel more familiar, most likely a throwback to the DSLR days. While still remaining lighter than a full frame DSLR with a comparable lens attached.

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  2. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Feb 2, 2013
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    Great write-up, Bobby, which answers a nagging thought or two that I have been toying with. I have the original 18-55 and the 18-135 and between them they meet the zoom needs of a non-zoom user like me. The former, along with my GR, also meets my needs for the 18mm (28 in old money) focal length, which is not a big focal length for me. I am mostly a "rangefinder" shooter so the XPro1 and primes tend to be my tool of choice, with the zooms relegated to the XT1 and specialist use. I think the 16-55 is a tremendous lens, but it doesn't quite fit my ways of working. What I would like to see is an updated 18-55; still light enough to be a "travel" lens but with the added benefit of five years of Fuji"s experience in building lenses and weatherproofing - that would be absolutely ideal.
     
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  3. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    I too would love to see that as an 18-55 v2. That would be the final lens to make me a full zoom convert for the very reasons you listed. Right now I'm using the 35mm f2 and 18-135 as a travel kit.
     
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  4. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    Here is a side by side, albeit both ends of the size charts, comparison
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  5. SnapDawg

    SnapDawg FujiXspot Veteran

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    Ken
    I've tried this lens a while ago but to me the X-Pro1 with the 1855 already stands for the max. bulk/weight I'm willing to carry all day long. Good luck with your combo!
     
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  6. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    I used to carry a 1D3 and 1Ds2 with a 135 f2, Sig 85 1.4, and Sig 35 1.4. So for me, this kit is still very light.
     
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  7. Karl

    Karl FujiXspot Regular

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    Yeah, I'm still downsizing from a D800 and 3 2.8 zooms... (and before that a D3s added in, and going back to F4s way back in time).

    So my X-T1 kit now is probably as big as I want to go once I add that last WA glass, and I'll still be well under the weight.

    Right now I carry whatever lens on the gripped X-T1 with the handstrap, and it feels right.. :D
     
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  8. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    That's a really nice feeling
     
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  9. SnapDawg

    SnapDawg FujiXspot Veteran

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    Ken
    Sounds familiar. I've been working as a Nikon sherpa for decades :laugh1: . On my last trip with my trusty F3, three weeks through the highlands of Iceland with constant rain, I had more than 6kg of camera gear in my backpack - 31.5kg total weight, measured on an airport stopover after I already had devoured some of my provisions. The F3 died on that trip, I almost met the same fate and that marked the end of my days with Tri-X, Kodachrome and Ektachrome. So yeah, even if the the X-Pro1, especially with the 1855 is a bit on the large side for me to be carried around all day it's a wonderfully capable and versatile tool and a joy to shoot (not at last thanks to the firmware upgrades).
     
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  10. Mike Jo

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    Mar 5, 2016
    Michael Joannides
    I tried this formidable lens on my xe1 at show last year ; way too big & heavy for anything other than an XT-1 & hard to justify when the 18-55 f2.8-f4 is already such a good performer ; i think my next fuji x body will be an xt10 , not that i need an upgrade , its just so damm covetable
     
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  11. Stevelink

    Stevelink FujiXspot Rookie

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    Steve Solomon
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  12. Stevelink

    Stevelink FujiXspot Rookie

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    Aug 17, 2015
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    Steve Solomon
    Great article sir! I totally agree with your conclusions about this awesome Fujinon 16-55 f/2.8 zoom! It is indeed super-sharp, quick-focusing, and built like a tank. The above image of Storm Clouds over the Hyatt Regency Dallas was taken with it. Thank you for your review.
     
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  13. PaulJ

    PaulJ FujiXspot Rookie

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    Great write up on the 16-55/f2.8 and the photos taken with it certainly show its quality and versatility.
     
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  14. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    Thanks, guys.
     
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  15. Blythe

    Blythe Guest

    I just wondered how, nearly a year on, folks were getting on with this lens. I spent a day nearly dropping camera and lenses last weekend because I repeatedly had to change lenses (and missing several shots in the process). Therefore, I am reluctantly considering trading my 14mm and 35mm for the 16-55 f2.8. I would retain my 50mm Zeiss Touit because I love the 1:1 macro capability. So guys, how are things? Still impressed? Or resorted back to primes?
     
  16. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    The 16-55 is an amazing lens. There is nothing bad I can say about it. But, I wasn't getting "the look" that I like for my images. So I went back to a prime kit. So, ultimately it depends on how you shoot and if you can live with 2.8 DOF.
     
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  17. Iansky

    Iansky FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Ian Lloyd-Grahm
    I have to agree with everything you said Bobby, coming from a D810 and large zoom the XT2 & 16-55 is a dream to use and delivers stunning images - I know some people have moaned about it not having IS but personally I have not had a need so far, it balances well and delivers sharp images even at slower speeds.
    Sorry to hear it has not worked out for you though.

    I do have to confess to using primes more on my XP2.
     
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  18. BobbyT

    BobbyT Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Bobby Tingle
    As it turns out, two things were at play here which were causing my issues. One was that having shot Canon pro bodies for so long, then the X-T1 with battery grip, my shooting technique did not transition well to working with a rangefinder body. The second was that I later found out that Capture One Pro 9 was not playing well with the X-Pro 2 files. Which was causing the images to not look the way I wanted them to.

    I have now sold my Pro2 kit, purchased my X-T1 back from dad who bought it as a backup. And re acquired a 16-55/50-140 pair. Also Capture One Pro 10 is out now, resolving all the other issues. And I am back in love with the 16-55. Now my kit is the 16-55/50-140/35 1.4 with the X-T1 and I'm loving my photos again. At some point I will get a X-T2 w/battery grip. But I am as happy as I can be with the images I get from this kit.
     
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  19. KillRamsey

    KillRamsey Super Moderator

    Feb 15, 2013
    Hood River, OR
    Kyle
    Man, this thread is like a soap opera. :)

    Also, that 16-55 is huge. I didn't realize it was bigger than the 18-135!
     
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  20. Iansky

    Iansky FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Feb 1, 2013
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    Ian Lloyd-Grahm
    Bigger but faster and boy is it sharp and super fast to focus!
     
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