Unsharp pictures? X-T1 + 18-55. Advice needed.

Discussion in 'Street and Documentary' started by mesmerized, May 31, 2014.

  1. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    Dear fellow users,

    I've been fiddling around with my X-T1. I have to admit that this is the first serious camera I've ever had (well, I suppose E-PL1 could be called a real camera too) and it's a bit overwhelming. The whole philosophy of using it is so much different from everything else I used to own. Anyway, I took a few pictures a few days ago and I noticed they lack sharpness. I mean they lack sharpness so much that it makes them not very pleasing to my eye. What do you think? What did I do wrong? Like I said, I'm not an experienced photographer but I'm eager to improve my skills. Any thoughts, any insights would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    PS. All pictures are SOOC JPEGs.
     

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  2. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    Gosh! Why do these pictures look sharper after uploading them here than when I open them with my picture browser?!
     
  3. Greyelm

    Greyelm FujiXspot Regular

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    Malcolm
    I know it sounds strange but in my experience with the 18-55 you need to turn the OIS off. I find that I get sharper images without the OIS, I don't think I'm alone in this. You can try it yourself by setting the zoom to 55 and shooting the same scene with and without the OIS.


    By the way, on my iPad your pictures look ok to me.
     
  4. WT21

    WT21 FujiXspot Regular

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    In general, IBIS or OIS should be off unless you need it.

    The images look sharper because they are shrunk down. Are you viewing at 100%? What are you comparing them to, to decide that they are not sharp?

    Also, you are uploading with stripped EXIF, so we can't see any camera settings. Can you provide a place with pics that are intact with EXIF data?
     
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  5. Luke

    Luke FujiXspot Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    they look plenty sharp to me. Obviously, the backgrounds will be soft because they are not on the focal plane.
     
  6. Armanius

    Armanius FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Muttley
    On my iPhone screen, the photos look sharp.
     
  7. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    Yeah, the look sharp here... but the original files are definitely not that sharp... (shocked!) I'm talking about people's faces.
     
  8. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    As a matter of fact, I'm not comparing them to anything... I just clearly see that the original files are not sharp enough (people's faces)

    Here, they look sharp enough to me but the original files are definitely not that sharp.

    Would you please be so kind and tell me how to get the EXIF data along with the pics?
    Where could I upload the original files so that they don't get shrunken?

    Thanks
     
  9. WT21

    WT21 FujiXspot Regular

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    Upload to Flickr would work. Did you shoot in jpg? One thing with Fujis is they have high noise reduction be default. Set NR to -2.

    Also, are you zooming in to 100% to conclude they are not sharp?
     
  10. Peter Chin

    Peter Chin FujiXspot Regular

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    In all the photos the people in the background are all out of focus :)
     
  11. jimmy1

    jimmy1 FujiXspot Regular

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    Jan 27, 2014
    Settings? Have you changed the sharpness and noise reduction? Also what ISO & aperture?

    The faces in the second shot don't look sharp, but there's a multitude of reasons why...
     
  12. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    Mar 26, 2014
    I'm perfectly aware of the background blur... I'm talking about people in the foreground...

    Like I said before... Here the pictures look much sharper than in the originals anyway...

    Today I took a few more and the results are somewhat disappointing. I'll try to uploa them somewhere where where you will be able to see them the way they really are.
     
  13. ReneBee

    ReneBee FujiXspot Regular

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    René
    Don't resize them, just make a 100% of the area you're having problems with.
    René.
     
  14. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    Mar 26, 2014
    Thanks for all the answers.

    ReneBee, do you mean I should crop the area? I'm not quite sure what you mean by "make 100% of the area"
     
  15. ReneBee

    ReneBee FujiXspot Regular

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    René
    Take the full size picture and cut the portion you're not happy with and upload it here.
    That will show the problem.
    René.
     
  16. romi.gilles

    romi.gilles FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    digital sharpness, optically sharp, or just plain not in focus?

    (Sent from another Galaxy via Tapatalk.)
     
  17. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    Picture no.1 - Policeman


    ExposureTime : 1/480Sec
    FNumber : F4.0
    ExposureProgram : Aperture Priority
    ISOSpeedRatings : 400
    Unknown (8830)3,1 : 1
    ExifVersion : 0230
    DateTimeOriginal : 2014:05:18 16:56:07
    DateTimeDigitized : 2014:05:18 16:56:07
    ComponentConfiguration : YCbCr
    CompressedBitsPerPixel : 32/10 (bit/pixel)
    ShutterSpeedValue : 1/488Sec
    ApertureValue : F4.0
    BrightnessValue : EV6.7
    ExposureBiasValue : EV0.0
    MaxApertureValue : F2.8
    MeteringMode : Division
    LightSource : Unidentified
    Flash : Not fired(Compulsory)
    FocalLength : 30.20(mm)
    MakerNote : FUJIFILM Format : 858Bytes (Offset:1166)
    FlashPixVersion : 0100
    ColorSpace : sRGB
    SensingMethod : OneChipColorArea sensor
    FileSource : DSC
    SceneType : A directly photographed image
    CustomRendered : Normal process
    ExposureMode : Auto
    WhiteBalance : Auto
    FocalLength(35mm) : 45(mm)

    Picture no. 2 - Street musician no. 1

    ExposureTime : 1/140Sec
    FNumber : F4.5
    ExposureProgram : Program Normal
    ISOSpeedRatings : 200
    Unknown (8830)3,1 : 1
    ExifVersion : 0230
    DateTimeOriginal : 2014:05:18 17:33:50
    DateTimeDigitized : 2014:05:18 17:33:50
    ComponentConfiguration : YCbCr
    CompressedBitsPerPixel : 32/10 (bit/pixel)
    ShutterSpeedValue : 1/144Sec
    ApertureValue : F4.4
    BrightnessValue : EV5.8
    ExposureBiasValue : EV0.0
    MaxApertureValue : F2.8
    MeteringMode : Division
    LightSource : Unidentified
    Flash : Not fired(Compulsory)
    FocalLength : 32.90(mm)
    MakerNote : FUJIFILM Format : 858Bytes (Offset:1166)
    FlashPixVersion : 0100
    ColorSpace : sRGB
    FocalPlaneResolutionUnit : Centimeter
    SensingMethod : OneChipColorArea sensor
    FileSource : DSC
    SceneType : A directly photographed image
    CustomRendered : Normal process
    ExposureMode : Auto
    WhiteBalance : Auto
    FocalLength(35mm) : 49(mm)

    Pic no. 3 - Street musicians

    ExposureTime : 1/150Sec
    FNumber : F4.5
    ExposureProgram : Program Normal
    ISOSpeedRatings : 200
    Unknown (8830)3,1 : 1
    ExifVersion : 0230
    DateTimeOriginal : 2014:05:18 17:33:55
    DateTimeDigitized : 2014:05:18 17:33:55
    ComponentConfiguration : YCbCr
    CompressedBitsPerPixel : 32/10 (bit/pixel)
    ShutterSpeedValue : 1/150Sec
    ApertureValue : F4.4
    BrightnessValue : EV5.7
    ExposureBiasValue : EV0.0
    MaxApertureValue : F2.8
    MeteringMode : Division
    LightSource : Unidentified
    Flash : Not fired(Compulsory)
    FocalLength : 30.20(mm)
    MakerNote : FUJIFILM Format : 858Bytes (Offset:1166)
    FlashPixVersion : 0100
    ColorSpace : sRGB
    SensingMethod : OneChipColorArea sensor
    FileSource : DSC
    SceneType : A directly photographed image
    CustomRendered : Normal process
    ExposureMode : Auto
    WhiteBalance : Auto
    FocalLength(35mm) : 45(mm)

    These pictures clearly have sharpness issues.

    Another problem I'm having is color reproduction. Have a look at these two cars please. They look nothing like in reality. The red color is simply a far cry from what those cars looked like in reality.
     

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  18. ean10775

    ean10775 FujiXspot Top Veteran

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    Eric
    I don't own an X-mount camera (just an X100S which I realize has a different sensor and different lens), but I will say that I find that at medium to longer subject distances my photos (based on either the camera or my processing of the files - I'm not sure which) don't render small detail very well (certainly not as well as my 5DII did and surprisingly not as well as my E-PL1 does either) and often at 100% those details do appear very soft to me. I can't speak to the first two shots (as those look out of focus to me rather than simply not being sharp - 1/150sec may not be a fast enough shutter speed to freeze the action here), but the crop of the police officer is fairly typical of what I see with my X100S.
     
  19. mesmerized

    mesmerized FujiXspot Regular

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    OMG... Please don't tell me that I spent so much cash on a camera that will be producing "soft" results.
     
  20. ReneBee

    ReneBee FujiXspot Regular

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    René
    Is there anything sharp in the picture of the policeman and the one of the musicians?
    Looking at the total picture, it looks to me that the bikes are sharp (policeman) and that the lady on the left is also sharp (musicians)
    Is that right?
    René.